{"id":25016,"date":"2013-03-07T17:55:36","date_gmt":"2013-03-07T22:55:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.windturbinesyndrome.com\/static\/static\/?p=25016"},"modified":"2013-03-08T09:29:02","modified_gmt":"2013-03-08T14:29:02","slug":"wind-turbines-at-sea-get-wave-resonance-syndrome-norway","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.windturbinesyndrome.com\/static\/2013\/wind-turbines-at-sea-get-wave-resonance-syndrome-norway\/","title":{"rendered":"Wind turbines at sea get Wave Resonance Syndrome<\/span> (Norway)"},"content":{"rendered":"

Editor’s note<\/em>: \u00a0Turns out ocean waves create a phenomenon called \u201cringing.\u201d \u00a0Ringing makes a resonance (vibration) which can break turbines and other such structures (oil rigs) “like matchsticks.”<\/p>\n

The problem is, turbine towers are just the right size to be \u201cvibrated apart\u201d (my term) by ocean wave resonance.<\/p>\n

Thus far it has not been possible to measure the force exerted by ringing. Laboratory measurements show that the biggest vibrations in the wind turbines occur just after the wave has passed and not when the wave hits the turbine. Right after the crest of the wave has passed, a second force hits the structure. If the second force resonates with the structural frequency of the wind turbine, the vibration is strong. This means that the wind turbine is first exposed to one force, and is then shaken by another force. When specific types of waves are repeated this causes the wear to be especially pronounced. This increases the danger of fatigue.”<\/p>\n

—Professor John Grue, University of Oslo<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

This is akin to what happens inside a house. Turbine infrasound creates a resonance (vibration) within certain-sized rooms, in some cases shaking the house apart. \u00a0(Witness the home of\u00a0Anne & Mark Cool<\/a>, Falmouth, MA, where nails are coming out of the walls in a relatively new home. \u00a0Annie Hart Cool<\/a> is a Sotheby’s realtor, incidentally. \u00a0WTS.com has heard similar accounts from homeowners, elsewhere.)<\/p>\n

Can you see the irony? \u00a0Turbines at sea being vibrated apart by a resonance from ocean waves! \u00a0Turbines getting Wave Resonance Syndrome (WRS)!<\/p>\n

How many marine turbines do you think will want to, er, abandon ship? \u00a0I can imagine the Australian sociologist, Simon Chapman, arguing turbines are faking WRS because they\u2019re envious of land-based turbines, which get most of the media attention. \u00a0Others might counter that marine turbines are getting WRS because of a nocebo effect.<\/p>\n

Wind energy has entered the realm of slapstick. Three Stooges comedy. Except, it\u2019s so tragic.<\/p>\n

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“Windmills at sea can break like matches”<\/h2>\n

Medium-sized waves can destroy wind turbines at sea, causing them to break like matches. Mathematicians are trying to explain why.<\/h3>\n

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\n—Yngve Vogt, Apollon: \u00a0Research Magazine<\/a>, University of Oslo (Norway) 2\/26\/13<\/p>\n

When waves above 13 metres hit wind turbines, an unfortunate force arises at the rear of the turbine. This is called ringing. \u00a0Professor John Grue is now looking for a general mathematical formula that can explain the special phenomenon.<\/p>\n

Medium-sized waves can break wind turbines at sea like matches. These waves occur even in small storms, which are quite common in the Norwegian Sea. “The problem is, we still do not know exactly when the wind turbines may break,” says Professor John Grue from the Department of Mathematics at the University of Oslo. Grue is one of the world’s foremost experts on wave research. In 1989 he discovered an inexplicable wave phenomenon called ringing, which is a special type of vibration that occurs when choppy waves hit marine installations. The discovery was made in a 25-metre long wave laboratory located in the basement of the mathematics building at Blindern Campus.<\/p>\n

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So far scientists have studied ringing in small and large waves, but as it turns out, ringing is more common in medium-size waves.<\/p>\n

For wind turbines at sea with a cylinder diameter of eight metres, the worst waves are those that are more than 13 metres high and have an 11-second interval between them.<\/p>\n

Financial ruin<\/strong><\/p>\n

The ringing problem may increase significantly in the years ahead. There are plans to build tens of thousands of wind turbines at sea.<\/p>\n

“If we do not take ringing into consideration, offshore wind turbine parks can lead to financial ruin,” warns John Grue.<\/p>\n

Today, the largest windmill parks at sea are outside the coasts of Denmark and Great Britain. They are nevertheless like small miniatures compared to Statkraft and Statoil’s enormous plans on the Dogger Bank outside Scotland. This windmill park is to produce as much electricity as 60 to 90 Alta power plants. A windmill park with the capacity of two Alta power plants will be built outside M\u00f8re og Romsdal.<\/p>\n

“Thus far it has not been possible to measure the force exerted by ringing. Laboratory measurements show that the biggest vibrations in the wind turbines occur just after the wave has passed and not when the wave hits the turbine. Right after the crest of the wave has passed, a second force hits the structure. If the second force resonates with the structural frequency of the wind turbine, the vibration is strong. This means that the wind turbine is first exposed to one force, and is then shaken by another force. When specific types of waves are repeated this causes the wear to be especially pronounced. This increases the danger of fatigue.”<\/p>\n

It is precisely this secondary force that creates ringing and that the mathematicians until now have not managed to calculate.<\/p>\n

Unfortunate vibrations<\/strong><\/p>\n

All structures have their own vibration frequencies, whether they are wind turbines, bridges, oil rigs or vessels.<\/p>\n

When the vibration matches the structural frequency, things get tough. This phenomenon is called resonance, and can be compared to the steady march of soldiers on a bridge. If the soldiers march in time with the structural frequency of the bridge, it can collapse.<\/p>\n

Unrealistic calculations<\/strong><\/p>\n

The Norwegian University of Science and Technology and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) have already made a number of calculations of ringing. Ecole Centrale Marseille and the French Bureau Veritas have also made such calculations. Det Norske Veritas is among those who use versions of these models.<\/p>\n

“Current models are the best we have, but the estimates are too rough and erroneous. The theories are applied far outside of their area of validity. This means that we cannot calculate the fatigue adequately.”<\/p>\n

Ringing is not related to turbulence. Ringing is systematic and is about high underpressure at back of the cylinder.<\/p>\n

Difficult mathematics<\/strong><\/p>\n

Internationally, very little has been done on this phenomenon. John Grue now has two Doctoral Research Fellows calculating these movements. He also collaborates with the Danish research community on wind power at Ris\u00f8 National Laboratory and the Technical University of Denmark.<\/p>\n

“Ringing is very difficult to calculate. There is great uncertainty. We want more precise descriptions of the physics of ringing. We are now trying sophisticated surface elevation models and complex calculations to reproduce these measurements accurately. We want to show that the ringing force arises systematically according to a general mathematical formula.”<\/p>\n

Saga Petroleum has previously conducted an extensive set of measurements of the ringing force in waves.<\/p>\n

“These fit our measurements very well”, says Grue.<\/p>\n

Differences between deep and shallow waters<\/strong><\/p>\n

The scientists must also consider whether the installations are in deep or shallow waters.<\/p>\n

“The structural frequency also depends on the conditions on the seabed.<\/p>\n

You can compare it to a flagpole in a storm. The flag pole vibrates differently depending on whether the pole is fixed in concrete or on softer ground.”<\/p>\n

“There has been no research on the connection between vibrations and the conditions on the seabed.”<\/p>\n

Oil rig damaged<\/strong><\/p>\n

Ringing does not just harm wind turbines. Ringing has already been a great problem for the oil industry. The designers of the YME platform did not tak ringing into account, and lost NOK 12 billion.<\/p>\n

“It is possible to build your way out of the ringing problem by strengthening the oil rigs. However, it is not financially profitable to do the same with wind turbines”, says John Grue.<\/p>\n

Improves the models<\/strong><\/p>\n

Arne Nesteg\u00e5rd, Chief Specialist in hydrodynamics at Det Norske Veritas, confirms to Apollon that wind turbines at moderate depths may be exposed to high-frequency resonant oscillations if the waves are extreme, but they safeguard against this. Nesteg\u00e5rd says that in the past twenty years, Veritas has developed ringing models and that they now work on improving the models for wind turbines at sea.<\/p>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Editor’s note: \u00a0Turns out ocean waves create a phenomenon called \u201cringing.\u201d \u00a0Ringing makes a resonance (vibration) which can break turbines and other such structures (oil rigs) “like matchsticks.” The problem is, turbine towers are just the right size to be \u201cvibrated apart\u201d (my term) by ocean wave resonance. Thus far it has not been possible to measure the force exerted by ringing. Laboratory measurements show that the biggest vibrations in the wind turbines occur just after the wave has passed and not when the wave hits the turbine. Right after the crest of the wave has passed, a second force hits the structure. If the second force resonates with the structural frequency of the wind turbine, the vibration is strong. This means that the wind turbine is first exposed to one force, and is then shaken by another force. When specific types of waves are repeated this causes the wear to be especially pronounced. This increases the danger of fatigue.” —Professor John Grue, University of Oslo This is akin to what happens inside a house. Turbine infrasound creates a resonance (vibration) within certain-sized rooms, in some cases shaking the house apart. \u00a0(Witness the home of\u00a0Anne & Mark Cool, Falmouth, MA, where nails are coming out of the walls in a relatively new home. \u00a0Annie Hart Cool is a Sotheby’s realtor, incidentally. \u00a0WTS.com has heard similar accounts from homeowners, elsewhere.) Can you see the irony? \u00a0Turbines at sea being vibrated apart by a resonance from ocean waves! \u00a0Turbines getting Wave Resonance Syndrome (WRS)! How many marine turbines do you think will want to, er, abandon ship? \u00a0I can imagine the Australian sociologist, Simon Chapman, arguing turbines are faking WRS because they\u2019re envious of land-based turbines, which get most of the media attention. \u00a0Others might counter that marine turbines are getting WRSRead More…<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[157,16,173],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.windturbinesyndrome.com\/static\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25016"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.windturbinesyndrome.com\/static\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.windturbinesyndrome.com\/static\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.windturbinesyndrome.com\/static\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.windturbinesyndrome.com\/static\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=25016"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.windturbinesyndrome.com\/static\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25016\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.windturbinesyndrome.com\/static\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=25016"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.windturbinesyndrome.com\/static\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=25016"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.windturbinesyndrome.com\/static\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=25016"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}